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Manny Pacquiao vs David Diaz
Topic Started: Jun 29 2008, 10:45 PM (498 Views)
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http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3465772

Good start for Pac-man at 135. I don't think he should move up again so soon though.

Diaz does good interviews:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9XdGCxpyu0I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W60u0Bdp9h8
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diaz hasn't fought anyone, he beat a very washed up morales. he was pretty much a paper champ. jmm is going to take joel's belt then they need to give him a 3rd fight with pac since he was robbed the 2nd time.
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Agree that they should have a 3rd fight.

You seemed to have changed your opinion on the 2nd fight though. I recall you didn't think it was a robbery
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i think i had marquez winning but i could be wrong that might have been the 1st fight. one of them i had marquez and i don't remember the other, maybe i had a draw the 2nd time?
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You had Marquez winning the 2nd fight but you didn't think he was robbed (could've gone either way or draw). Something to that effect. The thread's probably still on the first page.
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i know i didn't have manny winning the first fight either. i either had it a draw like it was or i had marquez winning slightly. this second fight i had a draw not marquez winning but what pissed me off (i found the thread and remembered) were those damn intentional butts. and i remember the 7th now, it was bad and definitely deserved a point plus their was convo about marquez's body work not being pointed out enough and the one judge having 115-112 for pac which i really disagreed with. i said 114-113 either way or a draw was the only scores they could give cause most rounds were obvious. i had a draw. so i would have either 2 draws or 1 draw and 1 for marquez, i thought it was clear in both fights marquez was the better boxer for sure though, that much i know. they can definitely fight at 135 now. pac moved up and just won the wbc title from that paper champ and marquez is going to win the wbo title in september from another paper champ and cheating prick in casamayor. so they can have a unification bout later this year and i'm sure marquez is begging for it because he knows he's better. i'm not too sure pacman wants anymore of him.
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I remember a headbutt but it didn't strike me as intentional. I only watched it once though. I actually have it 2-0 for JMM (unscientific, casual fan's opinion). Pacquiao just seems so frustrated when they fight.
On a related note, looks like September will be an interesting month for their weight division
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there was 2 butts the second one in the 7th was very intentional, i remember that much. he didn't try to mask it or anything just shot forward with it and it was because like you said he was frustrated like he got in the 1st fight.

juan should destroy joel if the ref does his job cause casamayor is probably the dirtiest piece of shit in boxing, i can't stand him. he's also washed up. he looked decent recently but i don't think he has the skills or speed at this point to handle marquez. campbell is going to have a very tough fight against guzman, i think he's going to lose that one and his wba belt. not sure whats up with the ibf if he dropped it or what, i think he dropped the wbo too which is why its on the line with juan and joel. pac and juan should have all the belts when they meet make one champ.
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Maybe I'll take a look at it again if I can find it. I just don't see Pac-man as a dirty fighter.

There's also that one between the other Diaz and Katsidis, both coming off losses I think.
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It was only a 5 lb. jump up in weight so I didn't see any reason why it should drastically effect Pac-Man. He's talented enough to beat most guys at 130, 135 and probably a good chunk of the 140 division.
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thats cause most moved up to 147. there's a rumor that if hatton beats paulie in this next fight then he'll be facing pac at 140 next, that can be nothing but entertaining, two guys that go forward and swing for the fences.
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Ty, don't edit my custom title bitch
I'd love to see that fight. Pac-Man is probably my favorite boxer and Hatton is up there also.
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i don't like either. lol
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Ty, don't edit my custom title bitch
How in the blue hell can you not like Pacquiao? He's one of the few really entertaining boxers. Unlike the boring ass fighters who do nothing more then try to eek out decisions on each other, he actually puts his opponents away.
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i don't like him i never said he didn't have exciting fights. he impressed me in the second barerra fight where he actually outboxed barerra but other than that he has the same old right jab left straight combo over and over. it works for the most part but he seriously pissed me off when he tried to cheat in the marquez fight cause he was frustrated.
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