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DelaHoya vs. Pacquaio; Who Wins?
Topic Started: Sep 29 2008, 10:53 AM (720 Views)
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The only way DLH loses is if he gasses and he fades in the later rounds, that is the only way Pac gets his points. Manny will not gas in this fight, but will he be able to take a DLH left hook I'm guessing no, but we'll see.

Also is it me or is Oscar getting hit way too easily now? I mean Forbes puffed up Oscar's face way too easily and he isn't even known as a power puncher. If Manny gets in some good shots DLH will get touched up again.

But honestly why does it seem DLH always loses the Big Match up?? I.E. Hopkins, Mosley, Mayweather, and Trinidad (Even though he should of won the Trinidad Match). The reason is he fades, if he does that against Manny in the later rounds will we see a repeat.

But I think the challenge for Pac is can he survive the first half of the fight? If he does, I think he has a tremendous chance of winning on points
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The only way DLH loses is if he gasses and he fades in the later rounds, that is the only way Pac gets his points. Manny will not gas in this fight, but will he be able to take a DLH left hook I'm guessing no, but we'll see.

Also is it me or is Oscar getting hit way too easily now? I mean Forbes puffed up Oscar's face way too easily and he isn't even known as a power puncher. If Manny gets in some good shots DLH will get touched up again.

But honestly why does it seem DLH always loses the Big Match up?? I.E. Hopkins, Mosley, Mayweather, and Trinidad (Even though he should of won the Trinidad Match). The reason is he fades, if he does that against Manny in the later rounds will we see a repeat.

But I think the challenge for Pac is can he survive the first half of the fight? If he does, I think he has a tremendous chance of winning on points
There's no doubt in my mind Oscar came in ready to toy with Forbes. Seriously underestimated him, he got hit here and there but he still dominated that fight and got a lopsided decision but he should have finished him. He won't underestimate Manny.

Oscar was NOT natural middleweight and way out of his element fighting there but he still was winning when he was stopped in the Hopkins fight, he actually impressed me a lot in that fight. He lost the Tito fight (i thought he won too) because he thought he had it in the bag and ran the championship rounds. I thought he could've easily gotten both decisions against Mosely and i thought there was even an argument in the Mayweather fight which was not impressive from either guy. He seems in great shape i don't think he'll be gassing and i think he controls the pace anyways in this one. I think he schools Manny like Marquez did twice with boxing skills and Manny won't be able to fall back on wild punching power like he did with Marquez cause Oscar will be the stronger puncher and he'll lose that also. On top of all this Oscar has better defense and a better chin.

Again no way he loses this fight. Oscar by decision 117-111. Or Oscar via TKO round 9 or 10.
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But lets talk about just for the sake of the future of boxing it's probably best for Manny to get the win. Since Oscar is probably only going to fight 1 or 2 times after this fight and Manny has several years of fighting left in him. Manny is basically to the Philipines what Julio Cesar Chavez was to Mexico and if you make him a huge name in America also he'd be a gigantic star.
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for boxing it would be in its interest for manny to drastically ko oscar to set up fights with mayweather (who would come out if that happened), hatton, etc. but it's not happening.
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Its like I said Oscar is getting hit way too easily, Pac Man may shut him out
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Wow dominant by Pac Man, way one sided than I thought

Alright now I'm interested to see him fight Mayweather
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oscar looked like he was about 70 years old. he either got real old real quick before our eyes or he didn't care to win this fight. oscar looked slow as shit even his jab which is crazy so something was definitely wrong and i think he's just old now. pacman would get laced and embarrassed by mayweather and i think mayweather may be interested in this fight for the money. maybe hatton will fight pac first and beat him but if he doesn't mayweather will come out since they can sell that and he'll win. cotto who was suppose to fight oscar had he beaten margarito would've ate him alive even worse if he had fought him, he looked worse than i ever seen him. pac will get more credit than he deserves for this win. i'll be impressed if he beats hatton since they're one in the same except hatton is bigger and if a mayweather fight does happen and he can do this to mayweather then shit the guy is one of the greatest ever but marquez's stock also rises because he could have gotten both decisions against him when they fought. should be interesting now. i'm still not sold though on pac being great at this weight, he'll be overrated a while here from this.
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You know the Hatton vs. Pac fight is really intriguing and I'll go on to say that Pac man will win that fight.

Its just a hunch, but its interesting styles of Pressure vs. Speed, Hatton looked great in his last fight against Paulie (a guy that was suppose to use his speed and just box circles around Hatton). The real interesting thing will be whose stamina runs out we know both of them are like Batteries that never run out. In a way, its almost like a mini cotto vs margarito fight in a way (I'm not saying exact). Manny is a completely different fighter than Paulie and I think his speed will discourage Hatton and cause Hatton to go to a different game plan. I have a feeling the match ends the same way as Hatton vs. Mayweather. Knockout for Manny.
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and yes I think Mayweather will come out to fight Pac if he beats Hatton and will embarass him, no way Pac beats Mayweather.
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Dec 7 2008, 01:00 AM
and yes I think Mayweather will come out to fight Pac if he beats Hatton and will embarass him, no way Pac beats Mayweather.
the way pac looked tonight he will make hatton look like a child. then hopefully floyd fights him which i agree that floyd will win.

Cruz i guess you were 100% about everything in this fight lol, but i had to agree i thought oscar would do better.

pac even weighed more tonight before the fight that was pretty interesting and obviously showed that oscar would not be the stronger man in the fight.
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That was total domination by Pac-Man. He looked really good tonight. The Hatton fight does intrigue me if he and Hatton were to go at it I'd pick Pac but Mayweather is a different story.
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Nice to see that not only did Pac-Man win but in dominant fashion. Time for Oscar to do 1 more big fight then hang 'em up.
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Oscar's done, I'm not too interested in seeing him fight again, age has finally caught up with him and he knows it. Will he come back for another fight, most likely, because who wants to go out on a losing end.

As for Pac being overrated that likes saying Joe Calzaghe's win over Jones makes him still overrated. I'm not the biggest fan of calzaghe and I was totally in the camp of IF they were to fight in both's prime Jones would win, but you can't take the fact away regardless Calzaghe owned Jones, Much the same as Pac Man owned DLH tonight, Pac man is not Overrated he is legitimate, just as much as JMM is as legitimate on the Pound for Pound list.
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Dec 7 2008, 03:30 AM
Oscar's done, I'm not too interested in seeing him fight again, age has finally caught up with him and he knows it. Will he come back for another fight, most likely, because who wants to go out on a losing end.

As for Pac being overrated that likes saying Joe Calzaghe's win over Jones makes him still overrated. I'm not the biggest fan of calzaghe and I was totally in the camp of IF they were to fight in both's prime Jones would win, but you can't take the fact away regardless Calzaghe owned Jones, Much the same as Pac Man owned DLH tonight, Pac man is not Overrated he is legitimate, just as much as JMM is as legitimate on the Pound for Pound list.
who said he was overrated? pretty much everyone has him as number 1 p4p now that floyd is retired
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