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pac vs mayweather
Topic Started: Dec 22 2009, 10:35 PM (501 Views)
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LethalStriker
Jan 7 2010, 02:31 AM
Pacquiao has never failed a drug test so it's retarded to make claims that he's a juicer. Mayweather is a fighter it's not his place to tell Manny what kind of a drug test he has to take, that's the commissions job not his.
Because he's never taken a test like this. It's clear as day they're afraid of something especially with his own people asking what happens if he fails one...etc. This all points to Pac being guilty of something from the beginning. If you're innocent then do it, simple as that. Floyd was gonna do it.
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Pacquiao has never failed a drug test so it's retarded to make claims that he's a juicer. Mayweather is a fighter it's not his place to tell Manny what kind of a drug test he has to take, that's the commissions job not his.
oh and his defense of being scared of needles when he has tattoo's isnt retarded and doesnt show he's guilty?

im all for the due process of innocent until proven guilty but the great thing about me is i dont need to worry about our bullshit and incapable judicial system when making my own judgements (see OJ Simpson). he's backpedaling because he's guilty...no reason to avoid the drug test by an organization that takes its tests MUCH more serious than our own.

im sure your personal favorite is, "if the glove doesnt fit, you must acquit"

my personal favorite, "We're Framing OJ, you in?????" (see link below)

Disclaimer: in no way was this statement intended to be racist or demeaning to anyone of any color or level of stupidity

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From Floyd

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"Throughout this whole process I have remained patient, but at this point I am thoroughly disgusted that Pacquiao and his representatives are trying to blame me for the fight not happening when clearly the blame is on them.

"First and foremost, not only do I want to fight Manny Pacquiao, I want to whip his punk ass.

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"Before the mediation, my team proposed a 14-day, no blood testing window leading up to the fight. But it was rejected. I am still proposing the 14-day window but he is still unwilling to agree to it, even though this is obviously a fair compromise on my part as I wanted the testing to be up until the fight and he wanted a 30-day cut-off. The truth is he just doesn’t want to take the tests.

"In my opinion it is Manny Pacquiao and his team who are denying the people a chance to see the biggest fight ever. I know the people will see through their smokescreens and lies. I am ready to fight and sign the contract. Manny needs to stop making his excuses, step up and fight."




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PRESS RELEASE-Judge Daniel Weinstein today issued an order to correct the false record that has been created by the recent statements from Top Rank and Manny Pacquiao’s representatives concerning what occurred at the mediation. The full text of the Judge’s statement is as follows:

Mediator’s Corrective Order Re: Mayweather-Pacquiao Mediation

The Mediator finds:

1. Various articles have appeared in the press purporting to characterize the substance and outcome of the Mayweather-Pacquiao mediation and the negotiations between the parties. Many of the reports are incorrect.

2. The mediation was a confidential proceeding. Any comments to the press or public by participants in the mediation purporting to report the substance or details of the mediation are violations of the strict confidentiality to which the parties and their representatives agreed and which they authorized the Mediator to enforce.

3. The parties and their representatives authorized that, if misinformation was disclosed to the press by either side, the Mediator would correct any erroneous information.

The Mediator corrects the erroneous reports to the press as follows:

a. Both parties participated in the mediation in good faith. Both parties participated in many hours of negotiation, with a number of proposals issued by each side and carefully considered by the parties and their representatives.

b. The Mediator himself did not formulate, recommend or issue a Mediator’s Proposal. The Mediator did not make an evaluation or finding that any one of the many proposals considered by the parties was the correct protocol.

c. Any attempt to characterize the mediation process as an acceptance or rejection by any of the parties of a mediator’s or an arbiter’s proposal or of any specific proposal is false.

d. In the end, the parties could not agree on a testing protocol acceptable to all.



Floyd comprised 2 weeks out and they still said no??? But he's willing to do 30 days out??? So it's not about them refusing because Floyd doesn't have the right to make these demands or they would've said no altogether. It's obviously about a time table and if 2 weeks isn't good enough then is there anymore of an indication he's guilty of something or this would've been settled with that amount of time. The 30 days is key to something. All signs point to Pac being suspect of using something not of him being superstitious, scared of needles, or whatever other lame excuses they've used. This is the end of this until probably later this year when they make the fight and take the 2 week test.
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The word is now that Pac will fight Clottey which i will admit is no cakewalk. The guy is another true 147lbs and has never been finished. That's a dangerous fight for Pac if Clottey comes to win.
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Clottey/Pac was horrible, Clottey was just covering for the majority of the fight. A very disappointing performance by Clottey, who I thought had a real chance win it.

Hopefully we see Mayweather/Pac. I will be rooting for Mayweather over Mosley, never really been a Mosley fan and really want to see Pac/PBF.
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I want to see Mosely whip them both but the more likely scenario is Mayweather winning both fights or Pac coming out as a PED user.
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Yeah even if Pacman never did PED. He came out looking really bad after not agreeing to the Olympic Drug testing.
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PBF killed Mosley, you still have haters though. No way Pacman beats Mayweather and I will hold to that belief until I see otherwise.

Not to say Pacman is not great in his own right. But Mayweather a level above him imo.
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Mosely almost had him out twice in the 2nd but that was it, Floyd stood his ground and showed why he's the best. Pac will get the same lesson taught, no one is on his level in boxing now.
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Dec 24 2009, 05:22 PM
Mike is absolutely right and to think differently is wishful thinking and naive. Sure some are clean but a lot get away with it.

As for this this should ne the norm for all sports. A blood test detects and is way harder to beat or impossible if timed right than a urine test. If this falls thru cause of this Pac is guilty and has no confidence without using whatever he's using, end of story.
Truth. Did you see the fight last night? Mayweather outside of the 2nd round made Mosley look every bit 38 years old. Kind of depressing
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Yea it was ugly, Floyd is just on another level from everyone when it comes to skills.
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Hey its reported that Pacman will compromise. Heard on ESPN some of the things hes willing to do.

Lets see what PBF does. For this fight to happen you need to compromise on your original demands and Pac making the effort. So lets put the egos aside and make this fight happen.
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What's he saying he's willing to do? Floyd offered him to stop two weeks out from the fight i think that's super fair, they turned that down last time, maybe he'll say yes this time. They tried to say it was Arum who didn't pass the word to Pac that Floyd said two weeks out last time but that's bullshit and everyone knows it, they were trying to cover for Pac dodging the test. 2 weeks out it stops, they should both agree, that's fair. All the docs interviewed and the dude who ran the big ring of the shit all said 30 days was enough of a window for him to pass any test. So 2 weeks should be good. I guess there's really no test to say "Yes he's using" but whatever the blood test does obviously scares some and shows something or other.
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Now Pacman is willing to do everything Floyd asked. But Money won't sign, hes looking like the ducker now though PBF has a few reasons not to sign now.

1) His uncle/trainer is going through some case.
2) Heard if the fight happens in 2011, he will benefit more from the money.

Both guys are fags if it doesn't happen.
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